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	<title>Comments on: 172. Color glass condensate and glasma</title>
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		<title>By: Dmitry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dmitry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 12:00:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Ervin

I don&#039;t think that anybody is able to measure gluon distribution function at these time scales, so yes, Rayleigh-Jeans is working hypothesis. What is observed in particular is the effective equation of state of the QGP, which reaches its equilibrium value at early times.

Cheers,
Dmitry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ervin</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think that anybody is able to measure gluon distribution function at these time scales, so yes, Rayleigh-Jeans is working hypothesis. What is observed in particular is the effective equation of state of the QGP, which reaches its equilibrium value at early times.</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
Dmitry.</p>
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		<title>By: ervin goldfain</title>
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		<dc:creator>ervin goldfain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 23:18:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Dmitry,

But if information is lost at 10 fm/c already, how can one prove that prethermalization actually takes place and phase coherence of QGP is still unbroken? Is there experimental evidence for the Rayleigh-Jeans distribution function or is it just a working hypothesis regarding what happens prior to hadronization?
 
Regards,

Ervin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Dmitry,</p>
<p>But if information is lost at 10 fm/c already, how can one prove that prethermalization actually takes place and phase coherence of QGP is still unbroken? Is there experimental evidence for the Rayleigh-Jeans distribution function or is it just a working hypothesis regarding what happens prior to hadronization?</p>
<p>Regards,</p>
<p>Ervin</p>
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		<title>By: Dmitry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dmitry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 21:08:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Ervin

I think, you want to say that intermediate time behavior of gluon distribution functions is described by dynamical RG fixed point. I have no idea - maybe yes, maybe no, anyway, already at 10 fm/c hadronization happens and almost all information about this early stage is lost.

My impression is that QGP is not thermalized completely (at least not at short time scales I am talking about), instead, instead, what is called prethermalization happens:
gluon occupation numbers are still extremely high at [tex]t\sim{}1[/tex] fm/c, Boltzmann exponential tail is definitely not what is seen. On the other hand, gluon distribution function can be approximately described by Rayleigh-Jeans, so a kind of effective temperature is present in the system - this is what I meant by prethermalization. The nice thing is that prethermalization 
(contrary to full thermalization) does not automatically imply that coherence pattern in the IR breaks down.

Cheers,
Dmitry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ervin</p>
<p>I think, you want to say that intermediate time behavior of gluon distribution functions is described by dynamical RG fixed point. I have no idea &#8211; maybe yes, maybe no, anyway, already at 10 fm/c hadronization happens and almost all information about this early stage is lost.</p>
<p>My impression is that QGP is not thermalized completely (at least not at short time scales I am talking about), instead, instead, what is called prethermalization happens:<br />
gluon occupation numbers are still extremely high at <img src='http://www.nonequilibrium.net/latexrender/pictures/798543848b7200f9a8e4b3257f0c976d.gif' title='t\sim{}1' alt='t\sim{}1' align=absmiddle/> fm/c, Boltzmann exponential tail is definitely not what is seen. On the other hand, gluon distribution function can be approximately described by Rayleigh-Jeans, so a kind of effective temperature is present in the system &#8211; this is what I meant by prethermalization. The nice thing is that prethermalization<br />
(contrary to full thermalization) does not automatically imply that coherence pattern in the IR breaks down.</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
Dmitry.</p>
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		<title>By: ervin goldfain</title>
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		<dc:creator>ervin goldfain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 08:38:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dmitry,

Is it possible that some sort of absorbing phase transition (APT)occurs at very short times in glasma? This phase transition may be able to sustain coherence of gluon plasma and prevent thermalization beyond the hadronization time scale. It is known that APT drives components in reaction-diffusion processes to fall into absorbing states where thermal fluctuations are strongly suppresed. Your thoughts?

Regards,

Ervin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dmitry,</p>
<p>Is it possible that some sort of absorbing phase transition (APT)occurs at very short times in glasma? This phase transition may be able to sustain coherence of gluon plasma and prevent thermalization beyond the hadronization time scale. It is known that APT drives components in reaction-diffusion processes to fall into absorbing states where thermal fluctuations are strongly suppresed. Your thoughts?</p>
<p>Regards,</p>
<p>Ervin</p>
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		<title>By: Dmitry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dmitry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 07:53:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Lubos,

Yes, everything was in units fm/c. Thanks a lot!

Dmitry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Lubos,</p>
<p>Yes, everything was in units fm/c. Thanks a lot!</p>
<p>Dmitry.</p>
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		<title>By: Lubos Motl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lubos Motl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 07:01:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Dmitry! Did all occurrences of &quot;fm/s&quot; went to be meant &quot;fm/c&quot; where &quot;c&quot; is the speed of light? If not, what is fm/s as a unit of time?

Unfortunately, I didn&#039;t quite understand what a color glass condensate (and glasma) is, even though you made a good job in saying where it is (the context) and what it is not. ;-)

Would you mind inserting a real definition into your text? Thanks a bucket.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Dmitry! Did all occurrences of &#8220;fm/s&#8221; went to be meant &#8220;fm/c&#8221; where &#8220;c&#8221; is the speed of light? If not, what is fm/s as a unit of time?</p>
<p>Unfortunately, I didn&#8217;t quite understand what a color glass condensate (and glasma) is, even though you made a good job in saying where it is (the context) and what it is not. <img src='http://www.nonequilibrium.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Would you mind inserting a real definition into your text? Thanks a bucket.</p>
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